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[[成长的烦恼]]里的迈克其实应该跟朱丽结婚

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[[成长的烦恼]]里的迈克其实应该跟朱丽结婚

迈克在剧中与凯特结了婚(现实中也是),但不管怎麽样,我觉的从[[成长的烦恼]]编剧Tim O'donnel的角度看,他最先设计的是让迈克和朱丽先经过一些磨难,最后结合在一起,但为什麽编剧最后又写成"迈克和凯特"结了婚呢?这恐怕要谈到戏外因素了:
朱丽的扮演者Julie McCullough当时非常受欢迎,柯克·卡梅隆也很喜欢她,我觉的他们两个人在屏幕上根本不是在演戏,就是在谈恋爱,你们明白我的意思,但是由于Julie给[[PLAY BOY]]拍了裸照,所以柯克·卡梅隆的母亲为了儿子的形象所以逼迫导演要将Julie挤出剧组,柯克·卡梅隆本身又是很孝顺的孩子,尽管他也喜欢Julie,但母命难为,最后,Julie在万般无奈中离开了剧组.
       我知道每个人对此事都有不同的看法,但至少我是这麽看的,我本身就是个电影青年,一青年导演,凭着我对剧本的敏感性,我是这样认为的,也许我对柯克·卡梅隆了解还不是非常非常多,但我知道他现在还是会想起Julie,就象剧中的MIKE一样,难以释怀.
       另外说说Julie,她拍裸照我觉的没什麽,麦当娜拍了那麽多,可麦当娜还是我的偶像(去年夏天我大部分的打扮就是一件麦当娜的T恤,是我印的,就是她穿一个皮夹克,绿军裤,高跟皮靴,反正特酷,然后我再配一条带洞的牛载裤和绿色的纽巴伦)至少我觉的她真实,比起同样拍了裸照但现在为了防止走光而戴乳帖的徐若宣,我至少觉的Julie和麦当娜要真诚的多,试想:Julie生活在偏僻的夏威夷,家境又不好,要想远赴好莱坞必然要付出些代价,我觉的这没什麽.我真的不相信"人之初,性本善"的鬼话,我觉的善良这个东西有些人刚生下来就有,有些人就没有.有种人就算经历了风风雨雨,也还是会有一颗善良而纯真的心,就例如Julie.
       和剧中的MIKE一样,他干的傻事我基本上也都干过,在未遇到真爱前我也曾风流过,我也曾为了一个女孩而从北京大老远跑到了山西太原,结果和MIKE一样,什麽也没得到,现在问我后不后悔,也许我会说会,也许我会说不会,但至少我知道我当时必须要那麽做,不那麽做才会后悔,现在我就这麽一个人过了两年,现在走在校园里,看到周围的一对对,我也不会多想什麽,我只是想我还有个理想要去追寻,就像[[鬼马小精灵]]的主演克里斯蒂娜@里奇说的:"我真的一点也不孤僻,我只是想有我的生活方式."
       新的学期就要来到了,我刚刚创作完成一部短片[[THE  SQUARE]],接下来我要拍一些短片,就是成长的烦恼!剧情人物照搬都行,我只想表达一下
       另外再谈谈剧中的波纳 ,他是MIKE的朋友,很逗,说实话看到他当兵要走的那集时我都在想:"用不着这样伤感,这家伙以后没过几集就又会出现了."可是现在我才知道,波纳是真的走了,从那集以后就再也见不到波纳了.我知道很多男孩在看到波纳和迈克的那最后一别时都流下了眼泪,我当时没流是因为我觉的波纳以后还会再出现,如果我当时知道那一别是永远的话,我也会情不自禁,这种感情也许女人永远都不会懂,其实男孩间能结成像MIKE和波纳那样的友谊不容易.这让我想起了儿时的一个玩伴,那时我们一起混江湖,晚上谈漂亮女孩,我还记得他给一个女孩写的情书和那女孩送他的照片被他奶奶发现了,结果我的长辈还对我说:"不要跟他学."但我们还是很要好,再后来,他搬了家,我也不怎麽去原来的地了,我们就再也没有见过面,现在算算已经8年了,朋友,你还好吗?你和送你照片的那个女孩怎麽样了,还在一起吗?我真的想再见见你!
       我和许多女孩谈过,但那真的是很久以前的事了,这两年我一直是单身,我也不知真爱是什麽,但如果有天有那麽个女孩出现,可以让我不再认为"婚姻就是一个束缚",可以让我有种想跟她永远在一起的感觉时,我知道那就是找到了真爱,但我不知会不会有这麽一天,至少我还没有遇到
       如果让我选的话,我会选Julie,而不是凯特
       当明天我继续玩世不恭,装酷卖帅时,至少我知道这一夜我很真实,就像杜威特校长说的:好好玩儿吧孩子们.青春是美好的,每过一年人就老一年,离开这些快乐的事越来越远.自己并不觉察,有一天,当你回想起这个晚上,也许你觉得这是一生中最美好的夜晚.
      
        

        
        
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原帖由 Michael91 于 2007-2-27 01:15 发表
我也曾为了一个女孩而从北京大老远跑到了山西太原,结果和MIKE一样,什麽也没得到
太巧了,我也干过同样的事!

同样的原因
同样的起终点
同样的结果

呵呵

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growing pain好久没看了。。MICHAEL说到的几个事情,我有点模糊了~~

“我也曾为了一个女孩而从北京大老远跑到了山西太原,结果和MIKE一样,什麽也没得到”
呵呵,年少轻狂,这都有的事~这才能体现年轻人的朝气啊~~哈哈~汗,好象自己很老一样!

很多事做了才知道怎么做得更好。。所以没什么好后悔的,到是把它作为一个有趣的回忆会更好~老了会谈起或是会对自己做的事感到可笑。。爱情啊。。貌似真的很激发人啊~呵呵

MICHAEL同学第一帖就那么真实实在啊!!鼓励~~!可惜,权限不够,不能加钱~

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看来楼主不知道科克。卡麦隆的一些背景啊。

我不想破坏他的形象,只是说一些事实。在美国,人人豆知道他是一个狂热的基督教徒和保守分子。他在戏中不愿意和julie结婚确实是因为她拍裸照。他认为julie很不道德,而不愿意再与她合作,而并不是因为他妈妈说了什么。

在成长的烦恼拍摄后期,科克。卡麦隆曾非常苦恼并一度罢演,因为他不能同意Mike这个角色的所作所为,他觉得Mike是一个很坏的人,他个人的道德标准和Mike大相径庭。在现实生活中,卡麦隆后来真的和Kate的扮演者结了婚,并养育了三个孩子。Mike还放出话来,他不会和Kate以外的任何女演员演亲热戏,他不能做对不起自己妻子的事,而他确实做到了。

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看来楼主不知道科克。卡麦隆的一些背景啊。

我不想破坏他的形象,只是说一些事实。在美国,人人豆知道他是一个狂热的基督教徒和保守分子。他在戏中不愿意和julie结婚确实是因为她拍裸照。他认为julie很不道德,而不愿意再与她合作,而并不是因为他妈妈说了什么。

在成长的烦恼拍摄后期,科克。卡麦隆曾非常苦恼并一度罢演,因为他不能同意Mike这个角色的所作所为,他觉得Mike是一个很坏的人,他个人的道德标准和Mike大相径庭。在现实生活中,卡麦隆后来真的和Kate的扮演者结了婚,并养育了三个孩子。Mike还放出话来,他不会和Kate以外的任何女演员演亲热戏,他不能做对不起自己妻子的事,而他确实做到了。


  你能告诉我你是从哪知道的这些消息的

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天哪,这已经是十几年前的老新闻了。你随便在网上搜一下关于《成长的烦恼》的资料,豆可以找到关于卡麦隆的这些消息。不光是英文网站,很多中文网站也有报道的。

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天哪,这已经是十几年前的老新闻了。你随便在网上搜一下关于《成长的烦恼》的资料,豆可以找到关于卡麦隆的这些消息。不光是英文网站,很多中文网站也有报道的。

我确实在网上找过,有雅虎还有搜狐,确实有很多卡麦隆的消息,还有GP里的其他成员的,其中卡麦隆的消息主要是说他的近况,性格,还有入行经过,但是确实没有你说的"他是怕因为影响形象才不跟朱丽演的",也没有你说的"他为了宗教所以不跟除女友以外的其他人演床戏"

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我从来没有说过“他是怕因为影响形象才不跟朱丽演的”,也没有说过"他为了宗教所以不跟除女友以外的其他人演床戏"。你要这么理解,我也没办法?

楼主看过柯克后来演的电影吗?找来看看吧,大部分都是宗教性质的,而且大部分是和他太太合作的。也许你想说这不能说明问题,但他是个狂热的基督徒和保守分子是不可争议的事实。你问10个知道他的美国人,有8个的反应都是crazy christian。唉,我还真是无聊,说了这么多废话。你在搜索他的名字的时候,加上“基督徒”这三个字试试吧。

可以理解你的心情,n年前当我知道关于真正的柯克。卡麦隆的情况的时候,也不愿意相信。

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原帖由 David_37 于 2007-2-27 11:11 发表
[quote]原帖由 Michael91 于 2007-2-27 01:15 发表
我也曾为了一个女孩而从北京大老远跑到了山西太原,结果和MIKE一样,什麽也没得到
太巧了,我也干过同样的事!

同样的原因
同样的起终点
同样的结果

呵呵 [/quote]
你们俩应该认识认识~~:v:

转一篇介绍,希望能澄清一些事实。。。
Kirk Thomas Cameron (born October 12, 1970) is an American actor who is perhaps most notable for his role as "Mike Seaver" on the sitcom Growing Pains. Cameron is currently a partner in the evangelical Christian ministry The Way of the Master.

Early life
Cameron was born in Panorama City, California to Robert Cameron and Barbara Bausmith, and is the brother of actress Candace Cameron. He also lived next door to Adam Rich. Adam's mother Fran encouraged the Cameron family to pursue stardom.

Career
Cameron appeared in several smaller film and television roles in the early 1980s, gaining renown after being cast as "Mike Seaver" in the 1985 television series Growing Pains. He subsequently became a teen idol in the late 1980s, when he appeared on the covers of several teen magazines, including Tiger Beat, Teen Beat, 16 and others.


Cameron went on to star in a number of films, including 1987's Like Father Like Son (a body-switch comedy with Dudley Moore), which was a box-office success. His next theatrical film, 1989's Listen to Me, performed poorly at the box office.

When he was "about 17 years old" (though others say in 1990) Cameron, who was not raised in a church-going family, converted to evangelical Christianity and began to protest what he perceived as immorality in Growing Pains, ostracizing himself from his fellow cast members. He did not invite them to his wedding, and went so far as to force the firing of cast regular Julie McCullough for having previously posed for Playboy, accusing the show's producers of promoting p0rnography. A decade later, Cameron agreed to appear in a Growing Pains TV movie, and apologized to his TV family, attributing his prior behavior to his lack of maturity, according to the 2003 article  in Christianity Today. McCullough, however, remains critical of him, stating that she lost a lot from the public criticism she endured from the controversy. Although McCullough herself is Catholic, she has criticized the evangelical tv programming Cameron has produced (which she has stated she has viewed on one occasion).

When Growing Pains ended in 1992, Cameron went on to star in The WB sitcom Kirk which premiered in 1995 and ended two years later. He has since left mainstream film and works almost exclusively in faith-themed productions, among them the post-Rapture movies Left Behind: The Movie, Left Behind II: Tribulation Force, and Left Behind: World at War. He works with Cloud Ten Pictures, a company which produces Christian-themed movies, and has starred in several of their other films, including Miracle of Cards.

Currently, Cameron partners with fellow evangelist Ray Comfort in training Christians in evangelism. The two have a ministry together called The Way of the Master, which includes a television/video series whose primary aim is to show Christians how to share their faith "simply, effectively, Biblically ... the way Jesus did" . In the series Cameron and Comfort conduct interviews with a variety of people. The two also conduct a live daily radio show The Way of the Master Radio Show with Minnesota talk show host Todd Friel.

Cameron reunited with the cast of Growing Pains for a CNN Larry King Live interview which aired on February 7, 2006, in conjunction with the Warner Brothers release of the complete first season of Growing Pains, the first 22 episodes of the series, on Region 1 DVD. On March 17, 2006, Martin Bashir interviewed Comfort and Cameron about The Way of the Master on a segment of Nightline. Cameron also appeared on The O'Reilly Factor on April 12, 2006.


Private life
Cameron met his wife, actress Chelsea Noble, on the set of Growing Pains, where she played his girlfriend. They married on July 20, 1991, and have six children: 4 adopted: Jack (b. 1996), Isabella (b. 1997), Anna (b. 1998), and Luke (b. 2000); and 2 biological: Olivia Rose (b. July 18, 2001) and James Thomas (b. April 13, 2003). Kirk's sister, Candace Cameron, is also notable for her appearance on another sitcom, Full House.


应该说他本人的原因是主要的,道不同不相为谋,自己的信念和道德观只要不强加于他人也无可厚非,但是Kirk明显有点过了...
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原帖由 Michael91 于 2007-2-27 01:15 发表
杜威特校长说的:好好玩儿吧孩子们.青春是美好的,每过一年人就老一年,离开这些快乐的事越来越远.自己并不觉察,有一天,当你回想起这个晚上,也许你觉得这是一生中最美好的夜晚.
这句话的确很在理啊~~~~

btw, LZ图片地址错误,看不到.....

[ 本帖最后由 masher 于 2007-3-4 02:29 编辑 ]

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想起mike和波纳还有一个小子去那个吸毒的女大学生家的时候,那个女的对波纳说你看上去就像个吸毒的,波纳说~~谢谢~~

哈哈哈,还是波纳比较搞~~

谁有kate的照片缅怀一下?跟mike真是旗鼓相当的好名字哇~~

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